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ZT-nikon D90:比较D40,D80,D300, D700,D3--D80成垃圾了[:((]

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发表于 2008-12-29 20:28:50 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

D90

full version here -- http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d90.htm

Active D-Lighting (Adaptive Dynamic Range) for taming highlights and shadows. There's a new “Extra High” mode for really nasty situations, and personally I'd just leave it in the Auto mode. If you're a turkey, you can bracket pictures with and without ADR. Nikon doesn't mention if this works for the video mode; I doubt it does but it would be awesome if it did.

Live View, with face-recognition AF.

Live View Focus Modes: Contrast-detection: Face priority AF automatically detects up to five faces and focuses on the closest, Wide area AF, and normal area AF used on a tripod.

Picture Controls similar to the D3, D700 and D300.

Scene Modes: Portrait, Landscape, Close-up, Sports and Night Portrait. The D90 is smart enough to know if VR is working and adjusts accordingly.

In-Camera Editing: The D90 adds Lens Distortion Correction and the ability to straighten horizons. There's also a goofy Spherize mode to screw up images as if they were shot with a fisheye, but it won't see any wider than the image did in the first place.

Playback Tricks: 72-frame playback, calendar playback and histogram display for a cropped portion of an image.

Gag me: "Pictmotion" menu creates slide shows combining five choices of both background music and image effects.

Silly Preset Scene Modes, like most less expensive cameras.

 

What's Better (lots of new stuff!)

What's better on the D90 than the D3, better than the D700 and better than the D300:

Easier selection of advance modes, frame rates, remote control and self timer, especially in the dark.

Works with the superior $17 ML-L3 wireless remote release.

ADR is on by default.

Adds the AF-A AF mode.

Easier Live View mode with dedicated button! The other cameras use the rotary top switch, which sucks!

Makes movies with sound. The D3 at least records sound alone, which the D90 can't.

The AF Selector Lock is better designed so it won't get knocked by accident.

The Self Timer can make multiple exposures, helping ensure everyone's eyes are open in at least one of the shots.

Nikon finally fixed the design flaw where by default the Modeling Flash fired if you hit the Depth-of-Field preview button. Thank you Nikon!

The dials work during playback by default. In the other cameras, I have to look for a few minutes to find this option hiding in the Custom Settings > Controls > Customize Command Dials option.

By default, the D90 won't shoot without a card. The D3, D300 and D70 default to the very dangerous DEMO setting which lets you happily shoot an entire wedding, look at each shot on the LCD in every display mode and zoom setting, and not realizing until the end of the day that you had no card in the camera!

Better than the D3 and Better than the D300:

Can call up the top item in My Menu with the FUNC button. This makes the D90 much faster to use, because I now can get into the menus and set everything with just one hand!

Dedicated rear INFO button.

ADR modes include AUTO.

The rear LCD Monitor-on times are selectable separately for Playback, Menus, the INFO panel and Image Review.

The D90 has both the My Menu menu and Recent Items Menus. (D3 and D300 lack the Recent Items menu)

Better than the D300

Far nicer rear multi selector. The D300 has a mushy single piece of crap, while the D3, D700 and D90 have much better two-piece controls with a separate center OK button.

What's Missing

What's missing compared to the D300, D700 and D3 (not much!)

No ability to program the center OK button to zoom-in full-size in playback.

No options for JPG optimization.

No selection of NEF/raw characteristics.

No Shooting and Custom Setting Banks.

11 versus 51 AF points. I didn't miss the extra 40, which are just in-between points.

No AF Area Mode switch; need to call this up in a menu (easy if you use the FUNC button to get to My Menu, and put this selection in My Menu.

No PC connector for studio flash. No big deal, I use the pop-up flash to trigger my studio strobes, or you can buy a hot-shoe to PC adapter.

Can't program the Preview button to do tricks.

No ability to use a custom prefix, like KEN_0123.JPG, for the file names.

No Mirror-up mode. This mode sucks in the D3, D700 and D300 anyway.

WB/ISO/QUAL buttons shared with other functions, but still easier to use than the hidden ones on the D3, whose locations date from the F5.

No option for seeing the Focus Point Selection in playback, but who cares?

No Intervalometer (automatic timed shooting).

Can't set ISO or exposure in full stops: ISO sets only in third stops, and exposure only in third or half stops.

No ability to change the focus and release priorities in the AF-S and AF-C modes.

No metering, finder read-out or EXIF data with manual-focus lenses. (buy a small light meter and a hot-shoe adapter if you can't use the LCD to guess exposure.)

No macho-man metal body, so the D90 weighs much less. The D90 has a metal lens mount.

Maximum sync speed fixed at 1/250. (The D3, D700 and D300 can be set from 1/60 ~ 1/320 FP.) All these camera allow setting the slowest sync in P and A modes to any speed as slow as 30 seconds.

No compatibility with Nikon's 1970s-inspired wireless transmitter.

No compatibility with Nikon's expensive (like $500) Image Authentication software.

No ability to Save/Load camera settings and Picture Controls to an SD card.

No AF fine tuning, which I never use, and for most people, just lets then screw up a good thing.

No RESET option in Easy Exposure Compensation.

Only uses SD, not professional CF cards. This matters because SD cards don't come in professional speed grades, like Lexar 300x and 233x and SanDisk Extreme IV, and because SD card readers aren't available in Firewire to support those speeds. This means that it takes too long to download photos in the large quantities shot by pros. This is too bad, because the D90 is up to pro needs in every other way.

No 4:5 professional aspect ratio, but only the D3 does this.

What's Weird

Compared to the D3, D700 and D300, the D90:

The FUNC button and Depth-of-Field Preview buttons are reversed.

When playing images with the ALL FOLDERS playback mode selected, instead of counting the images per folder (top right display might say 5/21), it counts as if all images on the card are in the same folder (top display might say 56/342). This gets confusing when images are in multiple folders.

The D90 has the option of five alphanumeric places for file names (better than the older D3, D700 and D300 which only have three digits and no letters), but there isn't an easy option to create new folders incremented by one digit. Nice for naming files!

The D90 defaults to the wrong file-numbering convention. You need to remember to set Custom Setting d7 to ON to prevent starting file numbers from DSC_0001.JPG every time you format a card. (All other recent cameras do this by default.)

Camera Suggestions

Got less than $1,600 but more than $500 for a Nikon DSLR? Here's your camera.

The ADR feature is a huge help in taming wild highlights and shadows, the new LCD, identical to the one on Nikon's $5,000 D3, is incredible, and the expanded Picture Control options let me get state-of-the art image performance in a $999 camera. If you know how to turn these on and appreciate what they do (or want to make Hollywood movies cheap), get a D90.

The dedicated INFO button mirrors the ingenious new INFO modes of the D700, making the D90 a world leader in usability.

What about the D40?

If money makes any difference, forget the D90. Digital cameras are a rich man's game. You don't need to spend $999 every other year just because Nikon or some web site says so. If I was on a budget and didn't shoot these cameras all day, every day, I'd never want anything other than the D40 for $499, complete with a great lens. I have no problem making great 20x30" prints from my D40 and its dinky kit lens.

The reason to buy a D90 is for the many subtle extra features, like a depth-of-field preview button, and for the better pictures in most picture-taking situations afforded by the Auto ADR feature, which is always on by default.

If you know how to turn on all the hot stuff in the D90, like ADR and adjust the Picture Controls which are newer and more flexible than the D40, D60 and D80, by all means, get a D90. I hope to have a plain-English user's guide to the D90 which will show you how to use all these great features, in which case, the D90 will be able to crank out more vivid colors and smoother skin tones than the D40.

What About the D80?

History! Forget it.

Get a D40 instead of a D80 if money is an issue. The D40 is 95% the same as the D80, except for a few minor features.

What about the D300 and D700?

Each of these is much tougher (and heavier) than the D90 if you're going to bang it around. Each is also much faster if you're shooting a lot of sports.

The funny reality of the world today is that the newer D90 has identical technical image quality to the older D300 and $5,000 D3 in good light.

Paying more gets you more durability and faster focus and frame rates, but that's about it. All these have the same superb LCD and image quality.

If you shoot in the dark, pro photographers first improve the light. If you can't improve the lighting and need to shoot at high ISOs, the D700 and D3 are vastly superior to an DX camera.

Lens Suggestions      top

The D90 works with every AF lens made since 1986.

The 18-105mm VR is a swell idea, and even the cheapest 18-55mm kit lens is also excellent.

The 18-200mm VR does everything; if you get it, you won't need any other lenses unless you're an ultrawide junkie like me.



 
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 20:35:34 | 只看该作者

【结论】价格位于$500-1500的最好的泥坑就是它了:D90


目前授权销售的零售商价格为~ (USD) $900


 

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发表于 2008-12-29 20:42:58 | 只看该作者

大清gg, thanks for the info. [>:D<][:-K]


i love D90


 

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 20:44:51 | 只看该作者

俏模样(图)


 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 20:46:36 | 只看该作者

噢,又忘了?[:-K]


除了D90,夏天,Montreal呢?


 

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发表于 2008-12-29 20:53:57 | 只看该作者

好像还不贵[;)]


  好像还不贵





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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 20:57:26 | 只看该作者

接近D3, D300这样高中档的水准,价格却是很适中,比俺买D80还便宜[:-Q]


  接近D3, D300这样高中档的水准,价格却是很适中,比俺买D80还便宜





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发表于 2008-12-29 20:57:39 | 只看该作者

[:-K]


an attractive guy!


 

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发表于 2008-12-29 21:00:46 | 只看该作者

回复:ZT-nikon D90:比较D40,D80,D300, D700,D3--D80成垃圾了[:


比D80多了两个键,而且都用圆形按键。。。。
D40和D80不一样。。。D40x才和D80一样
最大的优势应该还是在CMOS上面吧
 
始终要相信,最重要的是相机后面那个头!!


 

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发表于 2008-12-29 21:00:46 | 只看该作者

sorry [:P]


i love 大清gg


 

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发表于 2008-12-29 21:03:32 | 只看该作者

现在用起来,D80除了长曝时候热噪和高ISO噪点异常过分之外,别的都还不错。。。


用D80练好了以眼测反差,再上更高宽容度的机器(可能还要考虑ADC的位数。。。?)应该能出更好的照片


 

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发表于 2008-12-29 21:08:39 | 只看该作者

泥坑是俺最不明白的系统了,只能帮忙吆喝一下![:-M]


  泥坑是俺最不明白的系统了,只能帮忙吆喝一下!





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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 21:26:28 | 只看该作者

相机前面的头,远不如后面的头要紧[:-K][:-Q]


  相机前面的头,远不如后面的头要紧





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发表于 2008-12-29 21:27:09 | 只看该作者

明年就该是FF普及年了,还是直接上这个吧,向毛主席保证要比APS-C爽很多[:-M]


  明年就该是FF普及年了,还是直接上这个吧,向毛主席保证要比APS-C爽很多





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发表于 2008-12-29 21:30:07 | 只看该作者

最烦这个“后头”说:明知道这辈子换不了脑袋了,还要为省钱找理由。[:%]


  最烦这个“后头”说:明知道这辈子换不了脑袋了,还要为省钱找理由。





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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 21:32:15 | 只看该作者

canon 50D和它并驾齐驱吧


  canon 50D和它并驾齐驱吧





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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 21:36:31 | 只看该作者

全幅的来势有这么猛?


  全幅的来势有这么猛?





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发表于 2008-12-29 21:37:50 | 只看该作者

作为佳能粉丝,我认为除了娱乐功能,50D各方面都要超过D90不少。[:-M]


  作为佳能粉丝,我认为除了娱乐功能,50D各方面都要超过D90不少。





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发表于 2008-12-29 21:41:31 | 只看该作者

明年入门FF应该在一万人民纸上下的。


俺的5D才卖了8K多啊


 

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 21:51:35 | 只看该作者

Nikon D90 & Canon 50D


 
 
http://www.digitalrev.com/en/side-by-side---nikon-d90-and-canon-eos-50d-hands-on-review-3505-article.html
In some specs the D90 can't compare with the Canon EOS 50D, but it trumps the 50D with video capture. It may not be the best quality flicks but the chance to take video with different lenses is appealing to many people. For people who think the video capture is just a gimmick, and care more about image quality, well they have two very good cameras to choose from.
 
http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=3670
 


 
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发表于 2008-12-29 21:57:28 | 只看该作者

回复:最烦这个“后头”说:明知道这辈子换不了脑袋了,还要为省钱找理由。


后头的硬件换不了,软件还是可以升级的嘛。
 
摄影器材如果真烧起来可不是闹着玩的
 
一分钱一分货,两角钱两分货,三元钱三分货。
买个最便宜的镜头,照相机里面就能出个影儿
当你想要恒定光圈的变焦,价钱会比以前那个×2
当你想要恒定光圈而且收不收光圈成像一样强悍的时候,价钱就是原来的×20了
所以,器材就算了吧,找个适合自己够用的东西好好练练技术就好


 

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发表于 2008-12-29 22:01:04 | 只看该作者

年轻时候我也这么想;年纪大了才知道,很多东西不是练出来的,呵呵.[;)]


好机器好镜头对大师也许没大用,
对普罗大众绝对是能起到立竿见影的效果滴.


 

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发表于 2008-12-29 22:03:46 | 只看该作者

一代一代的更新 俺可追不起哦[:>]


  一代一代的更新 俺可追不起哦




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发表于 2008-12-29 22:06:35 | 只看该作者

50D可是15MP的机器啊,这大概也是APS的极限了.


D90出了机身优势和一堆花里胡哨的功能,
主要指标和佳能450D差不多,
有点说不过去.


 

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-29 22:12:21 | 只看该作者

噢,你的红尾巴怎么不见了?


  噢,你的红尾巴怎么不见了?





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发表于 2008-12-29 23:05:05 | 只看该作者

有个说法是: 您是玩摄影呢,还是玩摄影器材. 没玩之前先想好喽.[:-M][:-M][:-M]


  有个说法是: 您是玩摄影呢,还是玩摄影器材. 没玩之前先想好喽.





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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-30 01:33:53 | 只看该作者

上当了,不是冷眼MM,是冷烟人士[:-K]


  上当了,不是冷眼MM,是冷烟人士





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发表于 2008-12-30 02:10:28 | 只看该作者

50D 同 D90 没有可比性, 他们完全不属于同一档次的相机.


  50D 同 D90 没有可比性, 他们完全不属于同一档次的相机.





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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-30 02:16:18 | 只看该作者

泥坑粉丝快来助阵[:-K]


  泥坑粉丝快来助阵





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发表于 2008-12-30 03:33:09 | 只看该作者

不懂,飘过~~可以肯定的是


D90比D80好,BOSS快换吧,那个D80嘛
俺不嫌弃

 

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俺的玉玺,关公所赠
好看不?
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发表于 2008-12-30 03:50:16 | 只看该作者

都是忽悠人用的。。。。


  都是忽悠人用的。。。。





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发表于 2008-12-30 04:52:17 | 只看该作者

同意,否则我的p80成垃圾机了。终于找到知音了,哈!


明年下决心买个D100,你估计年底能上市吗?


 

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明年下决心买个D100,版主估计年底能上市吗?玩笑了,别生气!


  明年下决心买个D100,版主估计年底能上市吗?玩笑了,别生气!





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发表于 2008-12-30 05:12:18 | 只看该作者

两款都不fan[:-D] 摄影品牌上争强好胜还是让商家去做吧,对个人来说练好技术重要


摄影本来是一门多元化的视觉艺术,不同的层次和不同的表现手法,确立了摄影的艺术框架。我不赞成在摄影品牌上争强好胜,假能有假能的优势,泥炕有泥炕的亮点。

我相信一个摄影爱好者,不能拘泥于某一个兵器品牌上,只要拥有了摄影的基础,尽可能去寻找你心中的摄影路线.毕竟兵器只是一种工具,你的双眼,你的脑袋(思维),才是真正的摄影机。





 
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-30 05:24:01 | 只看该作者

关公往上走,俺往下走,,,D3[:-K]


  关公往上走,俺往下走,,,D3





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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-30 05:29:04 | 只看该作者

你,,,,,


你这泥坑派,怎么给人起了个“假能”的名字

-- 上述比较,供新跳“坑”做“假”在犹豫不决到底何去何从时,做参考用。

 

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发表于 2008-12-30 05:33:37 | 只看该作者

百无禁忌,我不算泥坑派,但刚好在用泥坑而已[:-K]


  百无禁忌,我不算泥坑派,但刚好在用泥坑而已




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发表于 2008-12-30 05:36:40 | 只看该作者

还有最新的D3X[:-M]


  还有最新的D3X




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发表于 2008-12-30 07:30:53 | 只看该作者

这是个伪命题,因为二者并不是非此即彼的。


  这是个伪命题,因为二者并不是非此即彼的。





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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-30 07:38:09 | 只看该作者

[:&]


都听到啦


 

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